[RTC] Trading Tips

Last modified 2. August 2013, 00:51 | Page exists since 17. March 2013, 05:30

If you’re having troubles with your trades, perhaps the following tips can help you:

As the initiator

1) Clear Descriptions for Haves

Many people skim the posts in the Trading section when looking for things to offer on. You can increase your chances of catching someone’s attention by being clear about all major attributes of your Haves:

a) Give the full name of the species that you’re offering. When offering Tinsels, mention that you’re offering a Tinsel (don’t call your gold Tinsel by colour alone (e.g. “gold”) or by lineage (e.g. “Apolloan”)). When offering other species, use their full name (e.g. “bright-breasted wyvern” or “silver”).
b) Include an image of the egg or hatchling. If it’s a hatchling, try to use a gendered or ungendered image depending on what applies. Make sure to update the image if the state changes (egg hatches or hatchling genders).
c) Describe the lineage precisely and completely, but succinctly: “CB”, “6G stair with male shadow-walkers”, “5G multi-species (colour-gradient) spiral”. Don’t confuse the words ‘clean’ (= recognisable pattern in lineage) and ‘not-inbred’; it can serve as a deterrent for established players.
d) Make sure your offer can be seen. Don’t fog your trade dragons without good reason.

2) Clear Descriptions of Wants

Mention what you’re looking for in-thread.

a) When asking for offers, be specific what tier you’re expecting offers to be in, e.g. specify “would like anything equivalent to the value of two caveblocker hatchlings”. Don’t use subjective modifiers (“fair offers” or “nice offers”).
b) When requesting species swaps, be specific about what you accept. A “lineage swap” means that you want the exact same lineage and can be a deterrent if all you want is “swap for a different (generation) (species)” (e.g. “swap for a different 3G silver”) or even “swap for a different (species) up to (generation)” (e.g. “swap for a different silver up to 5G”).

3) Want-Reflection

Do you really need a gender swap, or will an incuhatchable, influencable egg do? Are you sure you aren’t willing to accept an ungendered hatchling for another round of gender-roulette? Try to be as open with your trade as possible; keep in mind the chance someone has exactly what you want and wants to trade it for exactly what you’re offering is often very small.

4) Minimised Trade Effort

Sometimes, small things that make your potential trading partner’s life easier can make all the difference.

a) Provide a trade link, don’t ask for PMs. That also means: Have the patience to wait for your cave-caught eggs to come off cooldown. If that means waiting for 24 hours because of your schedule, do it. Having to PM rather than offer on a trade link may seem like no big deal, but it’s a major hurdle for trading in practise.
b) Link to the lineage page, not only to a trade link. That saves your partner a click to get to the lineage.
c) Avoid the use of other links to get your trading post’s point across. Every link your prospective trading partner has to click is one link they’re less likely to look at. As such, avoid linking to your wishlist. Similarly, avoid linking to your Tinsel spreadsheet (if you have one). Definitely don’t ask people to look at your scroll for other things you might have or could breed for them – the fewest people will go through that effort.
d) Always double-check to make sure your links all work. When reposting a trade, use the “quote” feature, or copy & paste the source, to avoid having unintended ellipses in longer links. Know that your trade link expires if your eggs grow up – be around to cancel and recreate it. Be sure you’re linking to the right lineage pages. Make sure your two-way trade really is two-way and you didn’t accidentally set it up as a transfer instead (though many people will grab your creatures and give them back to you!).
e) Post your trade when people are there to see. People will only page back through threads a few pages (if that) when looking for trades; if you post during a time when the majority of the player base is asleep (roughly between 04:00 and 19:00 UTC), you decrease your chances of getting good offers. (People in other timeszones often page back further.)

5) Trade Updating & Clean-Up

Especially if you’re asking for specific breed requests, people will be wary of offering (or maintaining an offer) on your trade if you don’t make it clear that your trade is still active and relevant for them. Of course, since a trade in the Trading section is active by default, it’s the negative you want to account for:

a) Let people know that you are one of the people that clean up after your trade – that the trade is valid until you’ve deleted the post or crossed it out.
b) If you’re asking for something that’s easily bred, advise people to PM you before breeding, and hash it out with them in that conversation. (Remember to update your post!)
c) If you’re asking for best offers in quantity of a certain breed, update your post regularly with the current best offer.
d) Decline as early as you can – and make your decline policy as clear as possible.
e) For trades of longer duration, contact people whose offers you’re interested in (if you can find them) and let them know under what conditions you’ll accept their offer.
f) When you’re done trading, if you had a lot of offers of what you were asking for, consider editing the precise nature of what you ended up accepting (and potentially why) into your post so people know why their offer was not chosen. Full disclosure is everyone’s friend; and if it’s “spaced out while writing my ‘want’ list and noticed I still need (species) for my scroll goal when someone offered that! d’oh; sorry everyone else :(”.
g) If you’re planning on letting the trade run for a while, give an estimate how long it will be running for. Careful: Don’t use your local time; express it in relative time (e.g. “five hours from now”); people from many, many different timezones play this game.

6) IOUs

They’re not part of the game and the moderators of the Trading section will regrettably smack your fingers if you as much as speak the word, but you are allowed to mention that you accept IOUs in your signature and you’re allowed to refer to your signature in your posts.

IOUs are great because they tend to be the best deal you can make: You can increase your request slightly because you’re made to wait (e.g. getting three red hatchlings rather than two) and they get what they wanted despite not having what you want on-hand at the time. Everyone wins. (Well, obviously only if it’s followed through; do be wary about who you accept IOUs from – but rejecting the notion altogether does mean you will lose out on some very good offers.)

7) Attitude

Courtesy in Trading is in the eye of the beholder, but there are a few things that can greatly increase your long-term value within the Trading community:

a) Try to respond to all PMs.
b) Avoid yelling at potential traders. “Will bite!” or “Don’t offer anything else!” makes you look like a jerk when a decline is just a click away.
c) Avoid tying up people’s trades, especially if they’ve PMed you politely. Keep in mind that 24 hours of an offer on your trade link means 24 hours it isn’t offered in a different trade (unless it’s asking for PMs, but see above – asking for PMs is a good way to reduce trading chances, so it’s not reasonable to expect it of your trading partners). If you do, however unintentionally (e.g. you’ve made someone keep an offer on your link for longer than they would have liked because their chances were good, but then something better came along), consider compensating the user with a common hatchling. It’s a fun side-chore, it doesn’t hurt, and it smooths over feelings of rejection very well. :)

8) Miscellaneous

As a final tip: You probably want to check your PMs one last time before you accept something on a trade link; PM offers are often better than tradelink offers, and of course the best offers will always be made at the worst possible time, i.e. when you’ve just accepted something on the trade link. ;) Checking your PMs one last time before you do at least minimises the time window where this unfortunate constellation can occur.

Footnote: A lot of the above tips only apply if you want as many offers as possible on your trade. When you’re offering something excessively rare (“very rare” does not qualify – I’m talking about things like 2G Tinsels), these tips are not important; in some cases, you will even want the opposite – such as asking for PMs and fogging your baby.

When offering on a trade

1) Egg Ratio

Avoid offering more eggs than are being offered – the person may either be egglocked and then could not accept your offer even if they wanted to, or they might be keeping slots free to accept announced egg gifts or IOUs from someone else. Similarly, avoid offering eggs on hatchling trades (unless, of course, they’re expressly requested).

If you must offer multiple eggs, consider PMing the user and asking if they would like you to split the offer. If their signature or profile suggests that they accept IOUs, offer to raise the extra eggs for them.

2) IOUs and Quantity

When people ask for a number of specific hatchlings for freezing or common CB hatchlings on their trades and their signature suggests they accept IOUs, if you can spare the time, PM the user instead and offer a greater amount than they are asking (1.5 x is a good multiplier, e.g. if they are asking for 2 hatchlings, offer 3; if they are asking for 10, offer 15, and so forth). Of course, this is only sensible if the user’s wishlist extends that far, but if it does, it can practically result in a trade guarantee.

Sneak Trades

This section is supplementary and meant for the obsessive-compulsive trader. :)

1) Hunting for Lineage or Gender Swaps

Sometimes, you will find people offering exact lineages like the one you have in the Trading section, looking for goodies, while you’re looking for a lineage swap. Similarly, sometimes people are offering a specific gender of a species when that’s exactly what you’re looking for, and you have the other gender of that species, but they’re not asking for a gender-swap.

In that case, it does not hurt to PM the person making the offer asking if they will consider lineage- or gender-swapping with you. If you offer a common hatchling or two with the swap (you should if you can – if you want, you can do that as an IOU if the user accepts them!), it’s even a net gain for the user and makes up for the time changing their trade around.

2) Gender Swap Trade Hijack

As long as you are fully prepared to be declined (and don’t offer on trades expressly asking not to offer eggs, please!), you can offer incuhatchable eggs or ungendered hatchlings on gender swap trades. For nearly all users, it’s far more important that they get another dragon like the one they have than it is that it’s already verifiably that gender. Of course, they will still prefer getting ones that are gendered right, but especially since for many people, the window of time between ‘the hatchling gendered’ and ‘the dragon matured into an adult’ is very short, the chances your egg or ungendered hatchling will be appreciated is non-zero.

If you can, though, PM the user to let them know that you’re offering it as a fallback only and you certainly expect and encourage them to take a gendered hatchling over your offer, to prevent frustration (since, unfortunately, without the supplement, many people assume you’re arrogant and actually expect to be first pick).

Neike Taika-Tessaro

Trading,

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[RTC] Generation patterns and restrictions

Last modified 24. December 2018, 01:15 | Page exists since 2. March 2013, 14:44

An occasionally recurring correspondence that the Rare Trading Center moderators field pertain to generation patterns and generation restrictions.

Of those, the first is probably more interesting to look at: Why, for example, don’t we allow 6G even-generation commons, when they’re clearly hard to come by and very difficult to make?

The relation of the second will become apparent in a bit.

Even generations

The trouble with even generation lineages is that while they are indeed very difficult to make in the higher generation numbers, the chance someone is looking for the particular lineage someone made is vanishingly small but for some popular pairings (‘female silver + marrow’ comes to mind as an example of that). In other words, while supply is low, demand is even lower.

Additionally, it’s incredibly difficult to come up with a wording that allows clean lineages in a way that isn’t fundamentally biased in some way. ‘Even generation’ alone is unfortunately not much of an achievement (see for example this lineage – I personally adore it, but it’s hard to argue it’s an objective work of art given how much of a patchwork it is). You could make a rule akin to “Perfect evengen checkers (4G+)”, but then people who love other lineages might feel checkers are being given undue weight.

Other lineage shapes – and the pleasant side-effect of the 3G cut-off

The 3G restriction we have for several species is, effectively, a lineage cleanliness restriction.

A 3G lineage cannot be messy in the strictest sense – it has to either be the start of a stair-shaped lineage (not necessarily a perfect stair, by all means, can be an inverse design, for example, where each ‘step’ is a new species), spiral-shaped lineage, or evengen. There are literally no other options at 3G.

Okay. Now what?

We’re definitely open to hearing suggestions!

Currently, we point people to the Even Generations Trading and Gifting Centre for even generation dragons, but perhaps some sort of addition of evengens would be useful. They are certainly unmistakably the most difficult lineage-shape to continue after certain generation numbers. The trouble is finding a sensible way to include them; so if you have any ideas now that you’ve read this article, feel free to chat us up about that if you have any! :)

Neike Taika-Tessaro

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[RTC] Rarity

Last modified 5. November 2014, 00:32 | Page exists since 2. March 2013, 13:48

Rarity is subjective.

The Rare Trading Center’s rare list is not any more an objective list of rarity than any other. We know this, which is why we welcome correspondence about it – and why we conversely don’t consider our list particularly horrible, either.

We try to keep the first post up to date with our best guess as to community accepted rarity, but especially owing to the huge amount of species on Dragon Cave and the occasionally unpredictable effects of rarity, this is a difficult task to master.

What is rarity?

Rarity is if a dragon species is difficult to produce.

This is not the same thing as a species being coveted, though the overlap is strong because of the effects of ratios. It is quite possible for a species to be rare but not coveted at all (a rut vampires were in for a long time). We do consider species like that rare, and they can be offered in our thread.

What mechanics do you acknowledge as making a dragon rare?

There are three separate factors that factor into species rarity:

  1. Low inherent ratio: The species is coded to be rarer than others. As far as we’re aware, this applies only to metallics (Gold, Silver, Prize-dragon species).
  2. How much a species is bred: The species is bred a lot, either because it is coveted or because it has a breed-only alt-form (as with blacks and stripes). While this has a limited effect (or no direct effect) on cave drops nowaways, it can result in the species being rarer; it will definitely cause breeding success to drop and it drives up demand for CBs because people want lineage starters.
  3. How quickly a species is picked up: The species might be just as common as a common, but it’s picked up much quicker than the common owing to that it is coveted and so people do not see it in the cave as much as commons.

How do you determine rarity?

The two sources for rarity information for the Rare Trading Center staff are the Trading section on the Dragon Cave forum (as well as Site Discussion for extra evidence on wonky ratio observations) and the cave drops themselves. Since some of the Rare Trading Center staff manage to miss most drops, the Trading section is usually a better hint – specifically what people are asking for, though it certainly also helps to see what people are offering.

When do you determine rarity? What about temporary surges in abundance?

Any change in rarity that lasts little longer than a month or two is mostly ignored by the Rare Trading Center, since as much as it’s true that rarity changes on shorter notice, we do also want to have a certain stability to the rare list, as not to unnecessarily confuse people.

Note that even with that cut-off, sometimes species to-and-fro, which is a little frustrating. Some species lie just on the edge of ‘rarity’ (e.g. CB vines for the years prior to 2013), and if you as much as cough at them, they’d fall off the list for a few months and then be right back on it – we try to keep cases like that off the list, again for the sake of stability.

Terminology and cut-off

Term Can be offered?
Caveblocker No
This is the stuff that just really does not want to go away in the drops, more or less unless someone feels generous and picks one up. In consequence, they are trivial to get as CBs and they are trivial to breed.
Common No
This is the stuff that you can easily find in the cave at any drop, but doesn’t qualify as a blocker.
Lesscommon No
This is the stuff you might miss in one drop but are still easy to get over two drops if you’re attentive. They are not snatched up quickly; but they do drop less.
Uncommon As CB only
This is the inverse to the lesscommon – they drop reasonably frequently, but they are snatched up very quickly (as quickly as a true rare is in the respective same biome) on a consistent basis.
Rare Yes 1
Everything not covered above or below.
Dragons made of unobtainium Yes
The stuff no one seems to be able to get, except for top tier players. CB metallics, ND, low-gen Tinsels, (low-gen) Shimmers, and occasionally bizarrely acting species having a phase of unobtainium, like CB Blusangs once did…

1 sometimes with a generation restriction, depending on their placement within the tier

Neike Taika-Tessaro

Trading,

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[RTC] Moderator Policy

Last modified 2. March 2013, 13:47 | Page exists since 2. March 2013, 13:46

The Rare Trading Center moderator crew does not demand compliance with the rules set out by the thread, but we do demand respect for them.

What does that mean – and what is the difference between those two notions?

Demanding compliance would be to expect everyone posting in the Rare Trading Center to both know the rules off by heart, including every change made to the (actively maintained) rare list, and to never mispost. We think this is an unreasonable attitude to have. We believe everyone is human and bound to mispost at some point; including Rare Trading Center staff.

Demanding respect is simply that we expect people not to ignore our informational PMs. ‘Don’t ignore ignore our PMs’ does not mean that we’ll get upset if you don’t respond to our PMs – while we love hearing back from people, requiring it couldn’t be further from the truth – but that if we’ve PMed you a few times about a specific form of mispost and neither heard back from you nor seen your posting behaviour change, we may start to get a bit upset.

To make that easier to grasp: If someone continually post metalfails in the Rare Trading Center and is asked to stop doing so on three separate occasions, then doesn’t get back to us about it or just responds with a toneless “okay”, we’ll get grouchy around the fourth time we have to tell that person about it. (If such behaviour persists, we’ll instate and maintain a user blacklist. And yes; the absence of one in the thread currently does say very good things about the community! :) )

What do Rare Trading Center moderators do?

We try to…

  1. PM everyone that misposts in the Rare Trading Center, and
  2. report each mispost to the section moderators.

We try very hard to make our PMs to people cordial and informative, owing to our philosophy about misposts being a thing that just happens. Very often, people get back to us, thank us for the heads-up, and edit their own posts. Sometimes, owing to timezones or otherwise, the section moderators get there first – but don’t be afraid of that, no warnings are dealt for trade misposts… and we, as moderators of the Rare Trading Center, like it that way.

Why do you report posts at all, then?

Posts are reported so they can be edited, to (hopefully) decrease the bandwagon effect. Many people check prior posts more than they check the Rare Trading Center’s first post for what’s an acceptable rare by our standards, so removing misposts (or mispost-y aspects of posts) tends to prevent further misposting.

Obviously, we like that effect. :)

When do you not PM someone? When do you not report a post?

Both are up to the thread moderator in question, but a few things tend to result in either no reporting or no PMing:

  1. offering a rarefail together with a corresponding rare to form a checker pair – this tends not to be reported
  2. offering something that was taken off the rare list less than or up to a week ago – this tends not to be reported
  3. having a stray entry in a large list of offers, when we know you know it shouldn’t be there, and you’re known to usually remove them – this can sometimes result in no PM being sent
Neike Taika-Tessaro

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Breeding pairs

Last modified 8. February 2023, 21:23 | Page exists since 29. June 2012, 00:10

Everything listed here has been tested unless otherwise noted, in that the pairs do not refuse each other; this is also true for holiday pairs, even if it’s only relevant if refusal should accidentally not be turned off (or breeding out of season).

Note that I am no longer collecting anything, but you can always ask me to breed things for you, I am very happy to help. ❤️

Holiday pairs

Halloween

Year Link Collecting? Amount Dominant type of lineage
20091 Pumpkin Dragons No Few Messy-ish
20101 Black Marrows No Lots Spirals, some checkers
2011 Shadow Walkers No Few Checkers
2012 Cavern Lurkers No Few
2013 Graves No Few Checkers
2014 Desipes No Few Checkers
2015 Caligenes No Few Maybe checkers…
2016 Witchlights No Few Checkers
2017 Omen Wyrms No Few Checkers
2018 Arcanas No None Checkers
2019 Kohrakis No None
2020 Pitfires No None

Christmas*

Year Link Collecting? Amount
20071 Hollies No None
20081 Yulebucks No Some
20091 Snow Angels No Few
20102 Ribbon Dancers No Few
2011 Winter Magis No Lots4
2012 Wrapping-Wings No Few
2013 Solstices No Some
2014 Mistletoes No Few
2015 Aegides No Few
2016 Snows No Some
2017 Garlands No None
2018 Starsingers No None
2019 Wintertides No None
2020 Glysteres No None

Valentines*

Year Link Collecting? Amount
20091 Valentines No Few
20101 Sweetlings No Few
2011 Rosebuds No Few
2012 Heartseekers No Few
2013 Arsanis No Lots
2014 Radiant Angels No Some
2015 Heartstealings No None
2016 Mutamores No Some
20173 Soulstones No None
2018 Floral-Crowneds No Few
2019 Sakuhanas No None
2020 Eradors No None
2021 Amarignes No None

* I don’t do stairs, so all my single-gender species lineages are checkers (or arcs, or other decorative evengens).
1 The caveborns here are from the event biome introduced in 2017. (In my first year of Dragon Cave, I briefly tried to, then failed to catch any Christmas dragons. Henceforth, I didn’t try to catch any event dragons – trying to catch them was a chore I didn’t want to bother with until 2011.)
2 Only one of my caveborn Ribbon Dancers is from 2010; the other is from 2017. (The original one I have I caught for kicks back in the phase mentioned above.)
3 I originally caught (lakym) and (spkfl). Given the drama around these sprites I wanted nothing to do with them, though, and traded them away to people who had missed or screwed up the drop. I am not interested in ever having any of these. Please do not offer me Soulstones. From my understanding, the original artists would prefer the concept was no longer on the site, so I try to keep them out of my Dragon Cave experience. (That said, independent of my feelings about how it was handled, I appreciate that other spriters pitched in their time to try and patch up what otherwise would have been a potentially a bigger problem – this is not a criticism of those artists.)
4 …since one massive event dragon drama is apparently not enough: Winter Magis were my absolute favourite holiday season dragons. Then in 2021, the original artist was cancelled, which involved having all of her art purged from site in blatant disregard for whether the community wanted this or not. As a matter of fact, I don’t like the new Winter Magi sprites, I certainly don’t like how this was handled (I may not like the person in question, but I like cancel culture even less – I’m a proponent of not conflating art and artist and believe this hurt the community far, far more than it hurt the artist), and I would like nothing much to do with Winter Magis any more.

Rare pairs

Breeding pairs: Rare pairs (Metallics, Prizes, Guardians of Nature and Trios, Sino- and Zyumorphs)

Spriter’s Alt-Kin (Saltkin)

tbd
Lehmdorn x tbd 3G checker
Corteo’s Arsani
Euryalina x Astroboa Aru’ak 3G checker
Winter Magi
Tylch x Silverrime 3G pseudochecker
Caligene
Shattered Clock x Bright Highlights 3G pseudochecker
x Overesano 3G pseudochecker
x Photographic Session 3G pseudochecker
x Wie die Faust aufs Auge 3G pseudochecker
x Bright Azure 3G pseudochecker
x Starklight 3G pseudochecker
NiramiTheRaven196’s Arcana
Astrosierra x Winter Farewell 4G checker
Winter Magi
Falcon Aizen x Prestahnukur 4G pseudochecker
Mutamore
Heartfelt Gluttony x tbd 4G pseudochecker (untested)
Infinis’ Kohraki
Nuts and Milk x Samanta Landvik 4G pseudochecker
tikigurl91’s Mistletoe
Prospering Light x A r i a n e 4G pseudochecker
Caligene
Naduno x Neeradical 4G pseudochecker
Caligene
Handed Over x Gentle Massage 4G pseudochecker
NiramiTheRaven196’s Arcana
Strong Pastels x Sosuke’s Love 4G evengen
Penk, Shadowwalker (Fiona) Rosebud (Nakase), Mutamore
Unjust Envy x Seyka Xenogem 4G evengen
PieMaster’s Desipes
Fierce Burtonesque x Incandescent Ash 4G evengen
Graves Process’ Omen
x Divergent Dread 4G evengen
Process’ Omen
Skeletal Marino x Staubtrocken 4G pseudochecker
DragonMaiden’s Arsani
x Erdrosselt 4G evengen
Wrapping-Wings
Heart Banner x Thamareux 4G checker
Heartseeker
Deliration x Toxidonia 4G evengen
PieMaster’s Desipis
Regal Moonfall x Vnirmu 4G evengen
Mistletoes
Cyanide Tenebrae x Thread Tenebrae 4G evengen
Caligenes Caligenes
Frostgift x Precious Snow 4G checker
JaziandCo’s Snow Angel
Silvered Sphinx x Erdrosselt (already mentioned) 4G evengen
Caligene Wrapping-Wings
Carved Coin x Spiritual Sound 4G pseudochecker
Caligene
Drowning Mind x Layadar 4G checker
birdzgoboom’s Desipes
Vivid Clock x Confounded Spell 4G checker
NiramiTheRaven196’s Arcana
Arcane Change x Yereso 4G checker
TCA’s Arcana
x
Feline Claw x tbd 4G checker (untested)
Process’ Omens
x
Jade Sephiroth x tbd 4G checker (untested)
Infinis’s Radiant Angel
Within Your Dark Heart x Fabulous Zen 4G checker
Corteo’s Arsani
Durant Aessina x Tchoulem 4G pseudo-checker
Schenanigans’s Pitfire
tbd
Fall’s Melody x tbd 4G pseudo-checker
Bloodsinger Starsinger
Jisru Dure x Kaezen 4G pseudo-checker
Mutamore
Astroboa x Snowjazz 5G checker
Winter Magi
Dark Penk Skies x Pepper Morchaint 5G checker
Yulebuck, Tinsel
Boric Flame x Chisa Xenogem 5G evengen
PieMaster’s Desipes
Softened Whites x Stranglemoon 5G white pseudo-arc
2 x Winter Magi, 2 x Solstice 2 x Wrapping-Wing, 2 x Ribbon Dancer
Blizzardgift x Cometshadow 5G evengen
JaziandCo’s Snow Angel Infinis’ Radiant Angels
Cometshine x Drosselmeyer Elements 5G evengen
both Radiant Angels Fiona’s Shadow Walkers, Wrapping-Wings
Gwynn Marino x Tsupocalypse 5G checker
DragonMaiden’s Arsani
Caballo’s Spell x Complementango 5G checker
DragonMaiden’s Arsani
Finfell x Ominous Starlight 5G checker
birdzgoboom’s Desipis Mistletoes & birdzgoboom’ Omen
Athechelt x Ace Wing 5G evengen
Odeen’s Aegis
Strange Poem x Tzuckerract 5G checker
Heartseeker
Eternal Thicket x tbd 5G checker (untested)
PieMaster’s Desipes
Starthread x tbd 5G checker (untested)
Rosebud
Deadly Elements x Silvermoon Cluster 5G evengen
Shadow Walkers Ribbon Dancers
Mi’Fettuccine x Nurembre 5G evengen
NiramiTheRaven196’s Starsinger, Infinis’s Kohraki, birdzgoboom’s Omen, Fiona BlueFire’s Garland
tbd
Toe Quixote x tbd 5G evengen (untested)
tikigurl91’s Mistletoe, Heartseeker, Ribbon Dancer
Wild Tangles x tbd 6G checker (untested)
PieMaster’s Desipes
Inky Tenebrae x tbd 6G pseudochecker with shadow walkers (untested)
Caligene, both Shadow Walkers, Penk
tbd
Blizzardshadow x tbd 6G checker (untested)
JaziandCo’s Snow Angel, Infinis’ Radiant Angels
Moebius Banner x Schokotaler 6G checker
Heartseeker
tbd
(MEhly) x tbd 12G messy (untested)
birdzgoboom’s Omen
Weak to Memes x Perseverence Aru’ak 5G mirrored messy
Process’s Omen

Purebred pairs that can generate alternate forms

Sugar Iridescence x Snow Iridescence 2G stripe
Ivory Iridescence x Stratos Iridescence 2G stripe
Foxgrape x Sandrebe 2G vine
Andenhorn x Natternholz 2G vine
Niurur x Ehbonee 2G black
Obsidianthorn x Tliltica 2G black
Aletris Iridescence x Magnolia Iridescence 3G stripe
Flame Iridescence x Cinder Iridescence 3G stripe
Pire Iridescence x Ember Iridescence 3G stripe
Frost Iridescence x Dew Iridescence 3G stripe
Rime Iridescence x Vapour Iridescence 3G stripe
Tar Iridescence x Basalt Iridescence 3G stripe
Velvet Iridescence x Midnight Iridescence 3G stripe
Azur x Aurrha 3G black

Xenowyrm checkers

Softened Aru’ak x Zhuorun
3G xenowyrm x stratos checker
Supasha x Kaekuol
3G xenowyrm x lihnseyre checker
Kaeromaati x Interesolus
4G deepsea/chrono xenowyrm checker
Amaapaknis x Atokutral
4G xenowyrm x bright-breasted wyvern checker
Reyenerika x Qizilencar
4G xenowyrm x flamingo checker
Baudrene x Limabuk
3G xenowyrm x zyumorph checker
Uvonaaq x Viveon
5G xenowyrm x ridgewing checker

Miscellaneous pairs

Skyfin Thuwed x Redlust Thuwed 4G ‘purebred’ Thuwed
Lemevethogal x Cypress Aru’ak 6G spiral
Riemannian x Cold Flame Thuwed
5G ember/hellfire checker Thuwed
Acute Ritinis Thuwed x Stormdrain Thuwed 5G ‘purebred’ Thuwed
Bloodspatter x Jungle Tide

5G EG rainbow
Mazajong x Tuamboa 5G EG flamingo with Arsani base
Alephagon x Icosagona 4G troll evengen :D
(dRTTY) x (Tmppr) 2G
Jsicfkiho Thuwed x Lustrous Lamella 6G nocturne spiral
Jadestar Rho x The Sky Is Bleeding
4G bleeding-moon / silver shimmer x green nebula checker
Vivid Erosion x Capricious Seasons



5G alternating seasonal x avatar of change checker
Envity x Wounded Gem
4G sunstone checker with alt sweetlings and red dorsals
Riverttle x Glittering Eddies
4G deepsea / pyralspite (almandine) checker
White Foam x That Dorkface Moment 5G Dorkface arrow
Neike Taika-Tessaro

Breeding,

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